Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/03/2022 01:00 PM Senate FINANCE

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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 39 BALLOT CUSTODY/TAMPERING; VOTER REG; MAIL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= HB 281 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 281(FIN) Out of Committee
+= HB 282 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 282(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 164 APPROP: CAP; REAPPROP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 281(FIN) am(brf sup maj fld)(efd fld)                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  and   making  capital  appropriations,                                                                    
    supplemental appropriations, and reappropriations."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:44:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Bishop   MOVED   to  ADOPT   proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute for CSHB 281(FIN),  Work Draft 32-GH2686\K (Marx,                                                                    
4/28/22).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETE  ECKLUND, STAFF,  SENATOR BERT  STEDMAN, recalled  that                                                                    
the committee  previously considered Version L  of the bill,                                                                    
at which  time it  considered 29 amendments.  The amendments                                                                    
that were  adopted had  been incorporated  into the  new CS,                                                                    
Version K.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:46:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Bishop   MOVED   to  ADOPT   proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute for CSHB 281(FIN),  Work Draft 32-GH2686\Y (Marx,                                                                    
5/3/22).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund explained  that the  proposed CS  for CSHB  281                                                                    
(Version Y) simply merged the  previously adopted CS from SB
164 (Version O) and the  previously adopted CS from CSHB 281                                                                    
(Version K).  The proposed CS  was an  omnibus appropriation                                                                    
bill  that  had  capital   items,  supplemental  items,  and                                                                    
operating items.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski asked  if  the  proposed CS  contained                                                                    
only amendments passed in the committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund answered affirmatively.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further  OBJECTION,  it was  so  ordered.  The CS  for  CSHB
281(FIN) Version Y was ADOPTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:47:50 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  explained that  the committee  had adopted                                                                    
the omnibus bill and mentioned  that copies of the different                                                                    
versions  of the  bill were  available. Additionally,  there                                                                    
was a spreadsheet  entitled "Handout D" (copy  on file) that                                                                    
would  show  school  bond  debt  reimbursement  figures.  He                                                                    
relayed that  the Legislative  Finance Division  (LFD) would                                                                    
be  posting more  fiscal  reports on  the  omnibus bill  and                                                                    
other matters to its website.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:50:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
introduced himself. He showed slide 2, "Outline":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? Volatility and Spring Revenue Forecast                                                                                   
     ? Updated Fiscal Summary with Senate Finance CS (SFIN                                                                      
     budget)                                                                                                                    
     ? Operating Budget Growth                                                                                                  
     ? Position Count Growth                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter addressed slide 3,  "Oil Price Forecast Update,"                                                                    
which  showed a  line  graph.  He cited  that  the data  was                                                                    
pulled from the futures market  the previous day. The spring                                                                    
forecast was  depicted by the  red line and called  for $101                                                                    
per barrel (bbl)  price of oil for 2023.  The futures market                                                                    
the previous  day had shown  the price to be  about $99/bbl,                                                                    
while the  oil price for  FY 22  was running about  $2 under                                                                    
the  forecast. He  summarized that  the  fiscal summary  was                                                                    
close  to the  spring  forecast, but  currently the  futures                                                                    
were slightly  below. He commented  on the  price volatility                                                                    
throughout the year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:51:33 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:51:51 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter advanced  to slide  4,  "Oil Prices,  FY 22  to                                                                    
Date," which  showed a line  graph entitled 'ANS  West Coast                                                                    
Price.' He  noted that the  brackets on the  graph indicated                                                                    
that the Department of Revenue  had done the spring forecast                                                                    
on the period based on the  futures in that week. Since that                                                                    
time, prices  had been extremely  volatile, dipping  down as                                                                    
low  as $100/bbl  and up  to $120/bbl.  He asked  members to                                                                    
keep in  mind that the  level of volatility during  the year                                                                    
had been high.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter addressed  slide 5,  "FY Oil  Price Sensitivity                                                                    
Chart," which showed  a graph entitled 'FY23  UGF Revenue by                                                                    
ANS Price  (Excluding POMV).' He  summarized that  as prices                                                                    
increased,  revenue increased.  The  spring forecast  showed                                                                    
$101/bbl  oil,  which  was  down  to  about  $99/bbl,  which                                                                    
signified a reduction  in revenue of about  $190 million. He                                                                    
explained that  there were "stair-steps" in  DOR's forecast.                                                                    
He noted that the line was  not a fixed curve. He noted that                                                                    
when  the  state was  trying  to  balance the  budget  while                                                                    
relying  on high  oil prices  rather than  savings accounts,                                                                    
LFD had historically recommended  that the legislature use a                                                                    
sensitivity chart to  give a better idea of  where the state                                                                    
would be if prices did not meet the forecast expectation.                                                                       
He encouraged members  to consider a wider span  of the line                                                                    
than just looking specifically at $101/bbl oil.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:54:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  spoke  to slide  6,  "Fiscal  Summary:  Senate                                                                    
Finance Budget, Spring Forecast  (UGF only)," which showed a                                                                    
data  table. He  highlighted  that the  top showed  revenue,                                                                    
projected  to be  just  shy of  $7  billion of  Unrestricted                                                                    
General Fund (UGF) revenue in  FY 22, and about $8.3 billion                                                                    
in FY 23. He pointed out  appropriations on line 6, with the                                                                    
operating budget in FY 22  (including supplementals) at $4.9                                                                    
billion and a  bit over $5 billion in FY  23. He pointed out                                                                    
agency operations  shown on line  8 increasing year  to year                                                                    
by $263.9 million.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter noted that there  was a placeholder for the K-12                                                                    
disparity test. There was still  an ongoing concern that the                                                                    
state might  fail the K-12  disparity test, with  an ongoing                                                                    
appeal  with the  federal Department  of  Education. If  the                                                                    
state failed  the test,  it would add  $72.4 million  to the                                                                    
state's UGF  expenditures in FY  22 and $74.6 million  in FY                                                                    
23. He included the amount in the fiscal summary on line 9.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  continued to address  the fiscal  summary table                                                                    
on slide  6. He  highlighted that  line 10  showed statewide                                                                    
items, with  an increase of  $349 million  from FY 22  to FY                                                                    
23, primarily  caused from  oil and  gas tax  credits. There                                                                    
was  $54 million  paid out  in the  FY 22  budget, and  $349                                                                    
million in the current budget.  The other major increase was                                                                    
a deposit  to the retirement funds  to make up for  the zero                                                                    
funding of  healthcare by  the Alaska  Retirement Management                                                                    
(ARM) Board.  He noted that  he would discuss the  item more                                                                    
later in the presentation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  summarized that  there  was  a bit  over  $500                                                                    
million  of  operating  supplementals  in  the  budget,  the                                                                    
largest   of   which   referred    to   school   bond   debt                                                                    
reimbursements  that  paid  back   past  amounts  unpaid  in                                                                    
previous  years.  Similarly,  the  funds  would  go  towards                                                                    
paying  unpaid amounts  for Regional  Educational Attendance                                                                    
Area (REAA) Fund  and Community Assistance, and  oil and gas                                                                    
tax  credits. He  summarized that  the primary  supplemental                                                                    
items made  up for  past years.  Three were  other increases                                                                    
relating to  fire suppression and the  Disaster Relief Fund.                                                                    
Line  12 showed  the capital  budget, which  was split.  The                                                                    
previous  year  there had  been  $242.9  million in  capital                                                                    
appropriations. The  current capital  budget was  split with                                                                    
$324.6 million  in FY 22,  and $407.4  million in FY  23. He                                                                    
summarized that  up for consideration  was a  capital budget                                                                    
of about $730 million of UGF across the two fiscal years.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:57:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  pointed out that  line 16 showed  the Permanent                                                                    
Fund  Dividend. He  recounted that  the previous  fall there                                                                    
was an  approximately $1,100 PFD  paid out, and  the current                                                                    
budget included a  dividend of 50 percent of  the percent of                                                                    
market value (POMV) draw, which  was estimated to be between                                                                    
$2,500  and  $2,600 per  person.  Line  18 showed  that  the                                                                    
budget  included   $199  million  to  deposit   past  unpaid                                                                    
royalties into the  corpus of the Permanent Fund  to make up                                                                    
for amounts  that were not  paid in FY  17 and FY  18. There                                                                    
was a  pre-transfer surplus in  FY 22 of about  $550 million                                                                    
and about $1.2 billion in FY 23.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  pointed  out that  forward  funding  for  K-12                                                                    
education was moved  down to the fund transfers  on line 23,                                                                    
in  order to  be consistent  with how  LFD treated  forward-                                                                    
funding of K-12 in the  previous period when it was forward-                                                                    
funded. He  explained that  when the  state did  not forward                                                                    
fund,  the  Public  Education  Fund   behaved  like  a  fund                                                                    
capitalization  and would  be  in a  different  part of  the                                                                    
fiscal summary.  He thought  the method  made for  a cleaner                                                                    
fiscal  summary than  prior  versions,  because the  forward                                                                    
funding was a form of savings.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  highlighted  the bottom  line  of  the  fiscal                                                                    
summary,  which  showed  a  post-transfer  surplus  of  $832                                                                    
million in FY  22. The line above showed  $660 million being                                                                    
deposited into  the Statutory Budget Reserve  (SBR), and the                                                                    
combined amounts  would result in  just shy of  $1.5 billion                                                                    
expected to go into the SBR in FY  22. In FY 23, there was a                                                                    
post-transfer surplus of $87.4  million that would similarly                                                                    
go in the SBR. In FY  23, the budget-balancing oil price was                                                                    
about  $99/bbl. If  the  oil price  was  above $99/bbl,  the                                                                    
surplus would  go into the  Permanent Fund as shown  on line                                                                    
22. He qualified that the  K-12 forward funding amount would                                                                    
prorate  downward  if the  revenue  was  not available.  The                                                                    
budget balancing  oil price without forward  funding dropped                                                                    
down to $84/bbl.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:00:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  spoke  to slide  7,  "Fiscal  Summary:  Senate                                                                    
Finance Budget,  $84 Oil  (UGF only),"  which showed  a data                                                                    
table. He  highlighted changes in  the case of  $84/bbl oil,                                                                    
including statewide  items on line  10. The oil and  gas tax                                                                    
credit amount would  decrease, as it was a  formula based on                                                                    
oil  revenue.  He  highlighted   that  the  deposit  to  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund  shown on  line 22 would  not happen,  and at                                                                    
$84/bbl  oil  there would  be  $36  million extra  put  into                                                                    
forward funding.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  if  Mr.  Painter   could  discuss                                                                    
backstop or backfill language from the SBR.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  explained  that  many  times  there  would  be                                                                    
language  in  the budget  in  the  case  of a  deficit  that                                                                    
allowed   for  the   difference   to  be   drawn  from   the                                                                    
Constitutional Budget Reserve (CBR)  or SBR. He believed the                                                                    
language was  in the budget  for the SBR, but  the mechanism                                                                    
would only kick in after the $84/bbl amount.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked Mr.  Painter  to  get back  to  the                                                                    
committee   with  information   regarding   the  oil   price                                                                    
threshold that  included evaporation of  the forward-funding                                                                    
and the SBR.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed to address the topic.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  explained that  there were  several issues                                                                    
with  increases  in the  FY  23  budget  that would  not  be                                                                    
recurring.  He asked  for Mr.  Painter  to get  back to  the                                                                    
committee with what  FY 24 recurring costs  would look like.                                                                    
He asked  Mr. Painter  to consider the  governor's submitted                                                                    
budget and wanted to look at  the base rate of change for FY                                                                    
24 in percentages.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter referenced  slide 8,  "Major Increases  in FY23                                                                    
Governor's Budget from FY22":                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ? $45.0 million for Medicaid                                                                                               
     ? $33.6  million UGF  increases to  offset DGF  lost in                                                                    
     CBR sweep                                                                                                                  
     ?  $25.5  million  UGF   for  union  contracts,  health                                                                    
     insurance, and other contractual items                                                                                     
     ?  $17.4 million  combined increases  in Department  of                                                                    
     Public  Safety  (adding  troopers, VPSOs,  and  support                                                                    
     positions)                                                                                                                 
     ?  $12.9 million  combined increases  in Department  of                                                                    
     Corrections (booking  and MH  unit at  Hiland Mountain,                                                                    
     adding non-CO support positions)                                                                                           
     ?  $5.7 million  for  DEC to  take  primacy of  federal                                                                    
     permitting programs                                                                                                        
     ?  $4.0 million  for  Department of  Law for  statehood                                                                    
     defense                                                                                                                    
     ? $3.8 million for fire suppression preparedness                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  explained that  the  next  few slides  covered                                                                    
major  increases  in  the current  budget  compared  to  the                                                                    
previous  fiscal  year.  The governor's  budget  called  for                                                                    
several  major  increases (listed  on  the  slide), and  the                                                                    
following  few slides  would show  increases  in the  Senate                                                                    
budget that were  not in the governor's  original budget. He                                                                    
reviewed the increases on the slide.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:06:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  highlighted  slide  9,  "Many  FY23  Increases                                                                    
Reverse Past Budget Reductions":                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Several increments in the Governor's FY23 budget                                                                         
   request reverse reductions or vetoes made since FY23:                                                                        
            $45.0  million Medicaid increase    Medicaid was                                                                    
          reduced by $35.0 million in FY22.                                                                                     
            $4.0 million University  of Alaska increase   UA                                                                    
        was reduced by $54.3 million from FY20-22.                                                                              
            $2.0  million for Legislative per  diem   vetoed                                                                    
          by Governor in FY22.                                                                                                  
             $0.7  million     GF/MH  items  vetoed  by  the                                                                    
          Governor in FY22.                                                                                                     
     ? Several other items reverse reductions made from                                                                         
     FY15-FY19 under previous governors:                                                                                        
            $4.9 million for DEC  404 Primacy   this was cut                                                                    
          in FY15.                                                                                                              
             $3.8   million  for  wildfire   prevention  and                                                                    
          academy  this was cut in FY16.                                                                                        
              $2.4  million   for   Village  Public   Safety                                                                    
          Officers this was cut in FY16.                                                                                        
            $1.2 million for  Judiciary for increased hours                                                                     
          this was cut in FY16.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  noted  that  many  of  the  increases  on  the                                                                    
previous slide  were reversing  past budget  reductions from                                                                    
the previous  seven or eight  years. He commented  that many                                                                    
of  the items  were bringing  the  state back  to levels  of                                                                    
service provided before revenue decline starting in FY 15.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  commented that the  $4 million  increase to                                                                    
the  University of  Alaska was  in light  of a  $101 million                                                                    
reduction since FY 16 to date.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  went back  to  slide  8 and  referenced  the                                                                    
Department  of  Environmental Conservation  primacy  federal                                                                    
permitting. He thought the funds had been cut.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter answered affirmatively.  He shared that the item                                                                    
was not  in the  Senate version  of the  budget, but  was an                                                                    
increase requested by the governor.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  showed  slide 10,  "Major  Increases  in  SFIN                                                                    
Agency":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Operations from Governor Proposal                                                                                          
     ? $60.0 million K-12 Outside BSA Formula                                                                                   
     ? $59.4 million for AMHS (Governor eliminated UGF)                                                                         
     ? $27.0 million for fuel trigger to offset high oil                                                                        
     prices                                                                                                                     
     ? $16.1 million DOH to Increase Personal Care                                                                              
     Attendant Wages                                                                                                            
     ? $14.1 million for University of Alaska                                                                                   
     ? $5.0 million for ASMI                                                                                                    
     ? $4.3 million for Food Bank pilot program                                                                                 
     ? $4.3 million for 50% increase to K-12 residential                                                                        
     schools                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  explained  that  both  the  House  and  Senate                                                                    
versions of the  budget had an amount of UGF  for the Alaska                                                                    
Marine Highway  System (AMHS) that  was equal to  the amount                                                                    
of funding  the previous  year. It was  not an  increase but                                                                    
showed  as  one  if  compared  to  the  governor's  proposed                                                                    
budget. He  discussed the  fuel trigger  to offset  high oil                                                                    
prices for agencies and particularly  the AMHS. He mentioned                                                                    
that  the increase  to residential  schools did  not include                                                                    
Mt. Edgecumbe High School.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:11:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  referenced the AMHS and  thought the funds                                                                    
were put in  if the ferries ran the schedule  and there were                                                                    
high oil  prices. He did  not think  there would be  crew to                                                                    
run the  AMHS schedule.  He mentioned backfill  language for                                                                    
federal funds and  expected a lot of the funds  would not be                                                                    
spent.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if Co-Chair  Stedman was referencing the                                                                    
$60 million going to the AMHS listed on the slide.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  answered  affirmatively.  He  noted  that                                                                    
there  would be  $200  million in  federal  funds coming  to                                                                    
AMHS. He  unsure of the  timing of  when the funds  would be                                                                    
available. He thought  there would be a  more refined number                                                                    
during the following year's budget process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter spoke  to slide  11, "Major  Increases in  SFIN                                                                    
Statewide Items from Governor Proposal":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? $89.3 million for PERS/TRS pension fund (amount that                                                                     
     would have gone to healthcare fund but for ARM Board                                                                       
     decision to leave it unfunded)                                                                                             
     ? $1.2 billion for K-12 forward funding (more of a                                                                         
     savings item than an expenditure)                                                                                          
     ? $199.0 million to PF  corpus in FY22 to satisfy audit                                                                    
     finding relating to FY17-18 royalties                                                                                      
     ? $220.8  million in FY22  to pay past  unfunded School                                                                    
     Bond Debt Reimbursement from FY17-21                                                                                       
     ? $84.0  million in  FY22 to  repay past  unfunded REAA                                                                    
     deposits from FY17-21                                                                                                      
     ?  $60.0 million  in FY22  to  pay oil  tax credits  at                                                                    
     statutory amount                                                                                                           
     ? $38.9  million in FY22 to  bring Community Assistance                                                                    
     distributions to $30 million in FY22 and FY23                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:15:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  addressed slide 12, "What's  the True Operating                                                                    
Budget Growth Rate?"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Several changes  from FY22-23  give the  FY23 agency                                                                    
    operations budget a lower starting point than FY22.                                                                         
     ?   The  Governor's   FY23   budget  increases   agency                                                                    
     operations  by  $95.6  million  (2.5%)  over  the  FY23                                                                    
     baseline.                                                                                                                  
     ?  However,   the  Governor's  budget   uses  temporary                                                                    
     federal funds  in place  of UGF  for the  Alaska Marine                                                                    
     Highway  System.  Keeping  UGF funding  level  (as  the                                                                    
     House and  SFIN budgets  do) would  result in  a $155.0                                                                    
     million (4.0%) over the baseline.                                                                                          
     ? SFIN  Operating Budget is $319.7  million (8.3%) over                                                                    
     the baseline.  The House is $266.9  million (6.9%) over                                                                    
     the   baseline,  although   $10.3  million   of  salary                                                                    
     adjustments  were submitted  after the  House's process                                                                    
     was complete.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  noted that  the fiscal  summary had  shown that                                                                    
agency operations  were up  by 6.7  percent, which  could be                                                                    
understating the true  level of budget growth  due to built-                                                                    
in  decreases  before  the  budget  work  was  started.  The                                                                    
decreases were listed in a small  table on the right side of                                                                    
the  slide. He  mentioned changes  in retirement  funds, the                                                                    
decrease in  student count, the  removal of  one-time items,                                                                    
and  contractual  changes.   The  baseline  before  starting                                                                    
budget  work was  $55.5 million  below  the previous  year's                                                                    
level with no  change in service levels.  He summarized that                                                                    
doing a comparison using the  baseline rather than to FY 22,                                                                    
it would provide a clearer picture of growth.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  explained that  the House  budget had  a growth                                                                    
rate of  6.9 percent  above the  baseline, while  the Senate                                                                    
Finance  Committee budget  had  an 8.3  percent growth  rate                                                                    
above  the  baseline. He  noted  that  there had  been  some                                                                    
governor's  amendments that  may have  increased the  budget                                                                    
and  exaggerated   the  difference   between  the   two.  He                                                                    
commented that the proposed budget  was a significant growth                                                                    
rate  after  years of  flat  or  declining budget,  but  the                                                                    
Senate Finance  budget was  a bit  over $300  million beyond                                                                    
the baseline.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:18:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the  timing  process after  the                                                                    
governor's  budget was  submitted on  December 15  and noted                                                                    
that  there  were quite  a  few  amendments and  adjustments                                                                    
after  the House  had done  its work,  and the  budget cycle                                                                    
stayed open until  the very last requested  changes from the                                                                    
governor. He  noted that  the Senate did  not have  the same                                                                    
time  frame as  the  House and  dealt with  the  end of  the                                                                    
budgetary cycle.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  showed  slide 13,  "Full-Time  Position  Count                                                                    
Comparison," which showed  a table of the  position count in                                                                    
different  versions  of  the   budget.  He  noted  that  the                                                                    
governor's  budget had  proposed to  increase the  statewide                                                                    
position  count by  260 from  the previous  year, while  the                                                                    
Senate Finance budget was 43  positions below the governor's                                                                    
request.  There  was still  a  substantial  increase of  217                                                                    
positions higher than FY 22.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked about Conference Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman explained  that the  following major  step                                                                    
after  floor action  on the  bill would  be working  out the                                                                    
budget with the other body.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  MOVED to  report SCS  CSHB 281(FIN)  out of                                                                    
Committee  with individual  recommendations. There  being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SCS CSHB  281(FIN) was  REPORTED out  of committee  with two                                                                    
"do   pass"   recommendations    and   with   four   "amend"                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop MOVED  that  the  Senate Finance  Committee                                                                    
direct the Divisions of  Legislative Finance and Legislative                                                                    
Legal make technical  and conforming changes to  the bill as                                                                    
necessary. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 164 work draft version O.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 164
HB 281 work draft version K.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
HB 281 work draft version Y.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
HB 281 LFD Presentation- SFIN Budget 5-2-22.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
HB 281 School Bond Debt Reimbursement to Communities.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
HB 281 Version Y Agency Summary Packet.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
HB 281 Version K Agency Summary Packet.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 281
SB 164 version O Agency Summary Packet.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 164
SB 164 Testimony Lutchansky Anchorage Midtown Park Chalet.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 164
SB 164 Testimony Hinderman Midtown Park Chalet.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 164
SB 39 Support Dundore.pdf SFIN 5/3/2022 1:00:00 PM
SB 39